According to a deposition on July 18, 2004, when Brigadier General Janis Karpinski mentioned that there were innocent people being held at a detention center in Iraq, “Maj. Gen. [Walter] Wojdakowski, the second most senior general in Iraq at the time [replied]: ‘I don’t care if we have 15,000 innocent civilians, we are winning the war.’ ”
– M. Cherif Bassiouni, The Institutionalization of Torture by the Bush Administration, Page 126